Mittwoch, 25. November 2009

The British Throne and the Catholic Church - a Discussion

I'm very pushed for time tonight, and I haven't done the slightest bit of research for this... but it doesn't need to be a complete article, random thoughts will suffice, the thread can do the rest.

On James Whale's show on LBC (London) talk-radio today, they were discussing the changing of tradition regarding the ascension of Catholics to the British throne.  I first heard of this about a year ago, and I guessed either Kate Middleton, Prince William's girlfriend, or Camilla Parker-Bowles, Prince Charles' wife, may be Catholics... pretty straightforward, didn't think much more about it.

Anyone who knows their most basic British history will tell you that King Henry VIII had many wives, beheaded a few of them, and when the Catholic Church, a much more prominent power in Europe at that time, wouldn't let him divorce, he formed the Church of England to get his way.  The Catholic v Protestant divide, tradition for the last 300 years, has been the source of much conflict - not least in Northern Ireland.

At present, while we don't have a 'written constitution' in this country per se, it's written down somewhere, I'm led to believe, that a Catholic cannot ascend to the throne.  Nor a woman, if there is also a male candidate.  If first in line to the throne is female, her younger male sibling jumps the queue ahead of her.

The debate I heard was dressed up as being about discrimination, and some callers quite rightly expressed their apathy for tradition and found this to be archaic nonsense, in need of revision to suit the times.  File alongside gay and female priests, then...

But there's more to this.  And that's where my random thoughts kicked in.

Europe is now united, the powers-that-be having acheived by stealth what Hitler could not by force.  The man chosen to be its symbolic figurehead (read: puppet president) is known to be anti-Turkey as far as the EU is concerned.  He's a 'Christian Democrat'.

Now, those who frown upon 'conspiracy theory', I ask you not switch off when I mention the B-word, but where the Bilderberg group is primarily an economic think-tank, tied to NATO and military politics, in Europe there is a much less well known group called Le Pinay Cercle... concerned more with the intelligence agencies, and very closely tied to The Vatican, The Sovereign Order of the Knights of Malta, Italian Masonic group Propaganda Masonica Due or P2 (whose past members include George HW Bush and Tony Blair), and the fundamentalist Catholic sect, Opus Dei, of which at least one recent Le Cercle chairman, Jonathan Aitken, is a member.

We're probably going to get a Conservative government in Britain very soon... complete with shadow-chancellor George 'Bilderberg' Osborne and Kenneth 'BB steering committee' Clarke.  They're supposedly anti-Europe, but I'm beginning to see the stage being set... exactly what for I'm not yet certain.

It was said, either by Gurcan or Mila, during that heated debate about Srebrenica and Kosovo here recently, that 'borders are being re-drawn along Ottoman lines', or something like that.  A united Europe centred around the Roman Catholic Church fits that picture all too neatly.  The religious angle on this would be more than welcome on this thread, I'd like to know what the various prophecies say that might relate?  I don't believe, but I don't think it matters as long as those controlling the game do.

So... we have a little of Britain's 'sovereignty' about to be handed back to the Catholic Church, which is and has always been the real power in Europe, along with the Rothschild banking cartel which resides in the City of London and all the significant financial capitals, and manages the Vatican's money.  Possibly even devolution following some well-timed trouble, probably in Northern Ireland...  but who benefits?

The Royal Families of Europe, who are all one family really?  The Church?  Brussels? 

Britain, as it stands today, will not join Europe.  It will be weakened first.  Scottish devolution?

That's a guess, not a concrete prediction - I'd like to see what comments this generates.

I can well remember what happened last time someone from the Royal household had designs on marrying into a different religion...   their desire to change the law suggests to me something is afoot, and it definitely relates to Europe / Britain.  I didn't even check if Kate Middleton is Catholic, but I'd imagine William will succeed Queen Elizabeth, not Charles.  He's too unpopular, whereas his and Lady Diana's son William, is quite the opposite.

Someone at the back there shouted "but the Royals and the Pope have no real political power"...

I'm not so sure that's true. 


This is not about religious discrimination, that's a terrible bit of media spin for the purposes of a radio debate.  There seems to be at very least a 're-structuring' about to happen... and they're not going to break up 'Airstrip One' without someone getting hurt.  Historic times we live in...


Now, am I barking up the right tree here?  Does all this make sense, is it just me, or does the picture look like its fits together, or not?

6 Kommentare:

  1. I really don't think that popularity will have a whole lot to do with ascension, Charles is next in line and regardless of public opinion tradition must prevail. To bow to public pressure would weaken the monarchy still further, and right now it is only the monarchy that has the power to dissolve government - something the public would do well to remember before demanding that Charles step down in William's favour. The only real question is whether Camilla will be Queen, and as a catholic she will not be, she will be King's Consort.
    Apart from anything else, Charles may not have the charm of his son, but he has a LOT more experience and is more mature. Frankly all William is known for is being Diana's son, not something *in my opinion* that says a whole lot. While Diana was very busy making sure her good deeds were in the public eye, Charles has done a hell of a lot more and not screamed "look at me!!!!!!!" the whole way.

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  2. The global governance conglomerate (NWO for those so inclined) consists of the church as the control of the opiate, the US for the military might and the UK for the logistics and finance. Although there has been little talk of it since Bush left office, the US is right behind the EU with the soon to come NAU. The general public as a majority in Europe is already under control being mostly disarmed and dependant on the state through it’s many socialistic programs

    I think we are watching the endgame.

    Conservative/liberal? Don’t really matter. Political elites matter and we have empowered them.

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  3. I think we are barking against the same forest.just some more revelations

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  4. Royalty is an anacronisum in the 22century

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  5. Nice dream the truth is they are still pulling the strings but now from below

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