A great tragedy of the United States is that the answer to many of the country’s domestic problems is obvious, even simple, but can’t be done because of a dominating political/media dynamic that rules that solution out.
The solution to these many problems – from the budget deficit to crumbling infrastructure, from mass joblessness to income inequality, from environmental degradation to educational shortfalls -- is to raise taxes on the rich and to use that money to get the United States back on track and advancing toward the future.And there are clear justifications for doing so, from practicality to fairness. Though many multi-millionaires fancy themselves self-made men (and women), the truth is that they all have profited from investments that American taxpayers have made over the decades, and even centuries.
For instance, President Dwight Eisenhower’s inter-state highway system enabled companies to move their goods more cheaply; President John Kennedy’s space program spurred the growth in computer sciences; the Pentagon created the Internet (yes, with critical support from Al Gore when in Congress), which revolutionized commerce and spread information.
These innovations and many more were achieved by the federal government using taxpayers’ money. Yes, entrepreneurs in their garages and dorm rooms did expand on these breakthroughs and deserve credit and a share of the profits, but they also should pay back at a much higher rate for the taxpayer-funded R&D that made their fortunes possible.
An even-stronger tax justification applies to Wall Street, where the greed and gambling of bankers tipped the economy into a severe recession just three years ago, costing millions of Americans their jobs and homes. To avoid an even worse outcome – a new depression – the federal government and Federal Reserve authorized trillions of dollars in bailouts.
To further calm Wall Street, the authorities essentially gave the bankers a “get out of jail free” card. Not a single prominent player in the sub-prime securities scandal has been prosecuted or forced to surrender much in ill-gotten gains.
Instead, many of the top Wall Street bankers are lining up again for massive paydays in the tens of millions of dollars, essentially skimming off profits that were achieved only because the U.S. government poured vast sums of public money into the financial sector. Yet, many of these same bankers insist that their taxes remain at historically low levels.
Other wealthy Americans have enriched themselves through holdings in multinational corporations that fattened their bottom lines by laying off middle-class Americans and hiring cheaper replacement workers overseas.
Not only did these American workers see their lives damaged by the exporting of their jobs but they face the indignity of helping to foot the bill for the gigantic U.S. military which protects the global interests of these multinationals.
Fair and Logical
So, it would seem both fair and logical for the U.S. government to restore the marginal income tax rates on the wealthiest taxpayers at least to levels that existed prior to Ronald Reagan’s presidency. That way the rich could pay back the country for all it has done for them.
The American rich would even stand to make more money if they helped to rebuild the middle class. It has been an acknowledged rule of business since Henry Ford that companies thrive when people can afford to buy the products that the factories produce.
A socio-economic system that craters its middle class and caters only to the wealthy is not just unjust but unsafe. It is especially vulnerable to stock market speculation, to boom-and-bust cycles, and to political disruptions.
So, to take action to restore the United States to the more stable middle-class structure that reigned from the end of the Second World War until Reagan’s presidency would seem to be a no-brainer.
And, the key to that restoration would be to raise the top marginal tax rates on the highest levels of income for the richest Americans from today’s 35 percent to, say, 50 or 60 percent. Those marginal rates were as high as 90 percent under Eisenhower.
But today’s U.S. political/media dynamic makes any discussion of higher taxes on the rich a non-starter. Instead, the debate is all about handing out more tax breaks to the rich, slashing government spending, canceling transportation projects, abandoning environmental goals, and busting unions that represent teachers and other public workers.
The test of political courage, according to the mainstream U.S. news media, is whether you’re ready to go even further and cut Social Security and Medicare. But the real “third rail” of American politics is whether you’ll consider higher taxes on the rich.
How hard that is was made apparent earlier this month as the nation wallowed in a sentimental remembrance of the late Ronald Reagan, the father of what his own Vice President George H.W. Bush once called “voodoo economics,” the notion that reducing taxes would increase revenues.
Reagan also elevated the worship of private wealth and stoked the demonization of the public sector with his famous line: “Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.”
Yet, as misguided as Reagan's policies have proved to be, a new Gallup poll shows that Americans rate him the greatest president ever, ahead of Abraham Lincoln and George Washington.
Inspired by Reagan
Just this week, when Wisconsin’s Republican Gov. Scott Walker thought he was talking by phone to right-wing billionaire David Koch, a key financial backer, Walker reminisced about his thoughts before he dropped “the bomb,” his bill to strip public employees of collective bargaining rights in Wisconsin.
Walker told a David Koch imposter who was taping the call: “I pulled out a picture of Ronald Reagan, and I said, you know, this may seem a little melodramatic, but 30 years ago, Ronald Reagan, whose 100th birthday we just celebrated the day before, had one of the most defining moments of his political career, not just his presidency, when he fired the air-traffic controllers.”
In other words, Reagan’s legacy is still inspiring a young generation of Republicans and right-wing operatives to press ahead on an approach to the nation’s economic ills that would continue low taxes on the rich, fewer regulations on corporations, structural budget deficits that compel cuts in government spending, and pressure to break unions.
Yet, over those three decades that Walker cited, Reagan’s right-wing policies have savaged the middle class and shoved more people into poverty, creating an income inequality not seen since the Gilded Age of the 1920s, an inequity that contributed to the Stock Market Crash of 1929 and the Great Depression.
Another factor in today’s job crisis has been the dramatic advances in technology, creating a huge surplus of labor in the United States, from factory workers to bookkeepers. And, if technology doesn’t get you directly, it might still put you in the unemployment line because modern communications let your company off-shore your job halfway around the world.
So, even if today's weak recovery isn’t stalled by higher Middle East oil prices or more gridlock in Washington, many Americans who lost their jobs or had to take severe pay cuts are not likely to make up lost ground. Unemployment and under-employment are almost certain to stay high, and those lucky enough to have jobs will have to work harder, faster and longer than before.
Already, most of us scramble to make ends meet, with fewer protections in the work place as unions shrink, with the 40-hour work week disappearing, with cell phone and e-mails putting us on call virtually 24/7, and with retirements postponed sometimes indefinitely.
This era’s great irony may be that an earlier generation thought that technology would create so much wealth and comfort that life would be easier for the human race, giving us more time to play with the kids, to read a book, to travel or to just take it easy.
Instead, because of America's curious political-media dynamic, technology enriches primarily the rich and, for the rest of us, makes our lives more slavish, more hectic and more desperate, especially when job loss is combined with lost health benefits and endless pressure from bill collectors.
Imbalanced Wealth
While the middle- and working-classes have seen the American dream recede for them, the upper stratum of the super rich has watched the benefits of the high-tech global economy flow disproportionately into their stock portfolios and trust funds -- while seeing their tax rates decline.
Prior to Reagan’s presidency, the top marginal tax rate (the percentage that the richest Americans paid on their top tranche of income) was about 70 percent. By the time, George H.W. Bush left office in 1993, the marginal rate was at 31 percent – and the U.S. budget deficit was exploding.
To get the deficit under control, President Bill Clinton and the Democratic-controlled Congress took the politically dangerous step of raising the top marginal rate to 39.6 percent, a move that contributed to the Republican congressional takeover in 1994.
Still, the Clinton tax hike helped get the federal budget back into balance and led to a projected surplus so large that policymakers fretted about the complications that might result from the U.S. debt being completely paid off. However, when George W. Bush took power in 2001, he immediately resumed the Reagan-esque push to reduce taxes, especially on the rich.
Under Bush-43, the top marginal rate was cut to 38.6 percent and then to 35 percent, contributing to another record surge in the federal deficit. Adding in various tax breaks, the rich paid even less than the low nominal rates.
“The average rate paid by the top 1 percent of households shrank from 33 percent in 1986 to about 23 percent in 2006,” the Washington Post reported. “At the same time, the share of adjusted gross income claimed by that highest-earning sliver of American society doubled, from 11 percent to 22 percent.”
By the time Bush left office in January 2009, the Wall Street financial bubble – inflated in part by the rampant greed fed by huge bank bonuses – had burst and the U.S. government was stuck with a $1.2 trillion deficit that included rescuing the bankers from a disaster of their own making.
After taking over, President Barack Obama and the congressional Democrats said they wanted to “claw back” some of those inflated bonuses and collect higher taxes on new bonuses once the bailout stabilized the banks. But Obama and the Democrats also feared a replay of Election 1994, so they passed a $787 billion stimulus package and maintained high spending for Bush’s two unfinished wars without seeking any immediate marginal tax increase.
The result was a further worsening of the federal deficit – creating another Republican campaign issue: Democratic fiscal irresponsibility.
Those accusations – and lavish funding from the likes of oilman David Koch – fueled the rise of the Tea Party movement, a surge that boosted the Republicans to major victories in Election 2010, including seizure of the U.S. House of Representatives and control of many statehouses.
Following those victories, Republicans insisted that Bush’s tax cuts for the rich stay in place for at least two more years, a concession Obama and the Democrats granted in exchange for some additional spending on the unemployed. But the Bush tax cuts guaranteed that the deficit would stay high, opening the door for new GOP demands for more spending cuts.
The U.S. government is now hurtling toward a showdown in March when some Republicans say they will shut down the government if the Democrats don’t accede to more spending cuts, which, in turn, will assure further layoffs from public-sector jobs.
Joe the Plumbers
What is perhaps most puzzling about this political-media dynamic is how many average Americans still support Reagan-esque tax cuts even when those policies have amounted to the wealthy waging “class warfare” against the middle- and working-classes as well as against future generations who are getting stuck with the bills.
During Campaign 2008, this curious anomaly was personified by “Joe the Plumber,” a mid-30-ish Ohio man named Joe Wurzelbacher. Though Wurzelbacher wasn’t even a licensed plumber at the time, he became Sen. John McCain’s symbol of an American everyman, someone whom the 72-year-old Republican presidential nominee called “my role model.”
In the closing days of Campaign 2008, Wurzelbacher launched his strange rise to national stardom by chatting along a rope line with Obama about the Democrat’s tax proposals, specifically Obama’s plan to lower taxes on middle-class Americans and raise them on people earning more than $250,000.
Wurzelbacher said he was considering buying his boss’ company, which he thought might make slightly more than $250,000 and thus might see a rise in taxes under Obama’s plan.
Obama responded by noting that any tax increase in that case would be slight and arguing that his tax plan would help America’s embattled middle class because it would “spread the wealth.” (Later, Obama noted that the vast majority of small businesses don’t clear $250,000 and almost no plumbers do.)
Nothing in the Obama-Wurzelbacher exchange was very remarkable. In effect, Obama was reiterating the century-old case for a progressive income tax that assesses higher rates on the well-to-do than on those with modest incomes.
It was a concept famously advocated by McCain’s earlier Republican role model, President Theodore Roosevelt, who in his New Nationalism speech of 1910 sounded far more radical than Barack Obama did in 2008.
“The really big fortune, the swollen fortune, by the mere fact of its size, acquires qualities which differentiate it in kind as well as in degree from what is possessed by men of relatively small means,” Roosevelt said.
“Therefore, I believe in a graduated income tax on big fortunes, and in another tax which is far more easily collected and far more effective, a graduated inheritance tax on big fortunes, properly safeguarded against evasion, and increasing rapidly in amount with the size of the estate.”
However, McCain accused Obama of “socialism” because of Obama’s support for rolling back tax cuts for the rich. McCain’s campaign began labeling Obama the “redistributionist-in-chief,” a charge that the Democrats finessed during the final days of the campaign but appear to still fear.
In the first two years of the Obama administration, the “socialism” charge has been repeated over and over, even though Obama undertook extraordinary steps to protect American bankers.
Obama’s practical political decision during Campaign 2008 not to aggressively defend his “spread the wealth” idea and his reluctance to tackle the issue of tax increases since then meant that the argument about the need for a greater government role in diverting some wealth from the top downward was deferred. After Election 2010, it is effectively off the table.
However, it may be the most important debate for the future of the United States and the health of the American Republic. If the government doesn’t intervene through its taxing authority to redistribute some wealth that now is concentrating among the ultra-rich, the middle class is likely to continue shrinking and the ranks of the poor swelling.
As the rich increasingly dominate the political process through unlimited campaign spending and the financing of sophisticated propaganda – like Fox News and right-wing talk radio – the policy battles will continue to be fought on ground favorable to the Right: more cuts in public spending, more reductions in retirement and health programs, more union-busting.
No democratic republic can long survive such a distorted political-economic-media system.
As Justice Louis D. Brandeis noted more than 60 years ago, "we can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.By Robert Parry
February 24, 2011
You forget all the other taxes that the poor and working class pay. In addition Social Security taxes were raised heavily by Reagan and then Social Security revenue was borrowed against to fund the income tax cuts for the most wealthy. This has led to the largest transfer in wealth in the history of mankind to the most wealthy. Now Republicans are trying to sneak a VAT and flat income tax into America in order to fund continued income tax cuts for the most wealthy at the expense of the poor and working classes.
AntwortenLöschenNot to mention all the loopholes which allow corporations to get away with paying NO tax... then as in most of our oil companies' cases they rake in record profits and the Wall Streeters who give themselves huge bonuses.
AntwortenLöschenAs far as Social Security is concerned, i'm disgusted that even Democrats fail to ever bring up the simplest and fairest solution of either raising or eliminating the income cap on contributions.
The fact that low earners pay the exact same amount into SS as the highest earners should gall anyone.
So to hear people talking about raising the retirement age before raising the cap is infuriating.
This constant defense of the rich is just so much bullshit!
As obvious, balancing the budget is not a problem at all. After all, we can furlough the government all together and then it does not need ANY budget.
AntwortenLöschenObviously there are pros and cons and policies involved here, which is not openly discussed.
The question is who will pay how much for the services the government provides (and we all agree that at least some of them are needed by some).
THAT is the question.
Every group strives to pay less and have his government services paid by the others.
There are no clear economic formulation of what would be "fair".
The debate in America focuses on two simple fronts:
Industrial and financial corporations claim to be the generators of wealth and hence they should pay less
The laborers (salaried and small businesses people) claim that they generate the wealth while most of the government services actually help the big business make more profits (e.g., sending our soldiers to defend Kuwait so that the oil companies get richer...)
Most likely it is some balance of the two sides which is the most productive for the nation: Thanks to large corporations of America that we enjoy a more prosperous life and thanks to the American laborers that our corporations are world class...
But, what is the optimal point?For the big business, the laborer should get as little as possible just above the threshold of revolt, so that the surplus money is re-invested.For the laborer, THEY should get most of the money to just leave enough for national productivity stay ahead.
The first one has a hard limit, which when accidentally violated results in violent and destructive uprisings.
The second one, when over demanded, will result in a country sinking into poverty and losing some of its sovereignty.
The difference from a Marxist policy is this: If there is no greed, there will not be daring investments (what makes the USA the most innovative country). If you take away the incentive to satisfy human greed, you take away the motivation to invest. We have seen that anywhere a strongman (or the communist party) oppressed any pathway to "personal wealth".
Since we have no clue what is in our own interest, these struggles result in odd experiments which result in economic disasters.
Take the latest housing crisis (Worldwide impact and stunning losses to Wall Street, too in spite of the FED rescues)
Or, the Savings&Loan crises of the Reagan Era.
Alternatively, squeezing the laborers has resulted in unionization, which, when unchecked, decimates the incentive to run a business, or pushes it to the limits of bankruptcy (GM)
At this time, democracy seems to provide a somewhat open forum to establish some balance between the two forces of interest, albeit with major irregularities.
One of the great fallacies of our democracy is that there is not one single entity with a LONG HORIZON.
Reps are for 2 years, Prz are for 4 and Senators for six. Since, by definition, a political position is about greed and self empowerment, the HORIZON OF INTEREST is very short. There is no body who cares what happens to the nation in -say- 10 or 20 years.
That is why we see that some very advanced countries still cling on to their Kings and Queens, albeit at a much weaker, but nevertheless still effective way of overseeing the long term interests of the country.
For example, the Queen of England has sent her envoy to Canada and abolished the parliament just two years ago, because the parliament was in a deadlock!
The USA does not have that kind of "Long Term Outlook" supervision.
Everything is "short horizon".
The result is major gyrations and instability.
The Presidential Term Limit was perhaps the greatest mistake this country has imposed. It took away ALL means of having someone care about what will happen in 20 years.
We have introduced the "Sitting Duck President" instead: During his last two years, no one CARES about him, and he does not care about the country either.
Not true.
AntwortenLöschenI have no qualms about paying my fair share... or even MORE... if it's done equitably.
I simply resent the middle class having to always be the ones to sacrifice while the banks and corporations get tax breaks and make use of off shore accounts and other loopholes in order to pay less... or nothing at all.
Who can defend that?
EXACTLY!
AntwortenLöschenIt's a problem throughout society.
Remember "five-year plans?
No one makes them any more.
It's all about now.... Get as much and keep as much for as long as you can... and by any means you can.
I think you meant "Lame Duck"... or did you? ;-)
:)))
AntwortenLöschenOooops...
I sure did.
But, that is the million dolar question...
AntwortenLöschenHow much is your FAIR share? Or THEIR fare share?
As you know, if you make below a level, you do not pay any income tax (although you pay excise tax regardless)
Also, the tax tables are PROGRESSIVE, meaning higher incomes are taxed at a higher rate.
So, the "rich" is actually liable for greater contributions relative to their income, meaning, one who makes 40K per year pays RELATIVELY LESS than one making $400K per year.
The question is this: WHAT IS THE RIGHT BALANCE?
For example, if you would be authorized to adjust the tax tables, HOW would you change it?
Let's start with actually MAKING THEM PAY the rates that exist now.
AntwortenLöschenSo many rich hide their assets in foreign accounts.
Corporations base their businesses in offshore "addresses".
And oil companies get federal subsidies.... i.e. taxpayer support.
Most of them pay NO taxes.
Let's start by cutting that shit out!
Exxon not only got subsidies but also paid no taxes for 2009, which is i guess the reason they recorded record breaking profits!
Others have suggested a return to the Clinton era rates. Sounds good to me since those were the years we built up a stable middle class AND a budget surplus.
Ah... you are talking about "incentives" and "subsidies"... Those are a whole different category of their own, and are surely the evil ones.
AntwortenLöschenYup!
AntwortenLöschenBut as long as those types are the ones shoveling money into the campaign coffers of the pols, that's not likely to change.
Which is why i'm encouraged by the events in Wisconsin.
I hope it grows into a nationwide revolt!
It's the only "voice" the people have.
Viva la revolucion!!!
And the supreme court had endorsed it as a CORPORATE RIGHT...
AntwortenLöschenSo, 1- give it up and live whatever you are allowed to live, or 2- revolt.
U.S. States Lead the World in High Corporate Taxes
AntwortenLöschenCurrently, the average combined federal and state corporate tax rate in the U.S. is 39.3 percent, second among OECD countries to Japan's combined rate of 39.5 percent.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/22917.html
Why don't the bottom 50% of tax payers start to chip in? How about $10? Anything really? Something? Why do the rich and corporations pay everyone's tab? Democrats love it this way!
"Give me, Give me, Give me - WAIT don't tax me"
What the rate is and what they actually PAY are two very different things.
AntwortenLöschenI'll chip in $100 if Exxon pays at LEAST that much instead of the ZERO that they paid.
Which of us do you think can better afford it.
My income is in the LOW five figures... what was Exxon's profit last year?
As i said, i don't mind paying at all. In fact it's the Repubs who are always crying about "don't raise my taxes!" It just burns my shorts to see those who can most afford to pay more paying nothing at all. And they're lobbying their asses off to keep it that way.
"Exxon doled out more than $15 billion in income tax payments to foreign countries last year. U.S. tax codes allow companies to take massive deductions in light of those international charges, which knocked Exxon's federal income-tax bill down into negative territory.
AntwortenLöschenThat said, Uncle Sam gets his money in other ways. Including sales taxes and duties, Exxon recorded $7.7 billion in U.S. tax costs last year, and paid even more overseas."
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/news/1004/gallery.top_5_tax_bills/2.html
Should corporations pay more - should we close loopholes? Perhaps.
To Democrats - the "RICH" is anyone who makes a good living. $250,000 and above according to Obama. I am not for raising these peoples taxes. They are the ones who create jobs.
I think the bottom 50% need to start chipping in a little.
The bottom 50%?
AntwortenLöschenLike who... the 99ers like at least four people i know who have been unemployed for over a year?
Like single moms who make barely enough to stay above water?
Like me next year who will earn somewhere around 30K as a single woman?
People in low income brackets do pay by way of sales taxes.
Most have NO savings.
They are taxed ... or rather not taxed for a reason.
Should they give up a meal in order to "chip in"?
Fine, if it makes you feel better that they throw in $10 bucks (cuz it burns your shorts that some poor sap gets off, but not that some fat cat does).... don't know how that would be done.
But the Repubs' tactic of paying for tax breaks for the rich on the backs of the middle class is backfiring wildly now.... and i LOVE it!
How is it backfiring? Didn't we have an election in 2010? Didn't Obama just extend the Bush tax cuts?
AntwortenLöschenIf you are unemployed you don't income taxes since you don't have an income. But if you do have an income you should contribute something to the federal treasury. So how about a grand out of the 30K you will earn to help the country - like everyone else is.
No more free rides for unions. No more free rides for the bottom 50% of wage earners (Not unemployed).
Time for everyone to chip in.
Have you SEEN what's happening in Wisconsin???
AntwortenLöschenDon't look for this trend to die anytime soon.
The Repubs miscalculated this one big time!
I don't see it going away unless they resort to police/military action.
Yes - Liberals and UNION members ONLY (No one else) are skipping work and bitching about having to pitch in. They are all union members - people understand this. All left wingers. No independents - hell no everyday working democrats even. Just Union members afraid that the gravy train is ending.
AntwortenLöschen71 Percent of Wisconsin Residents Think Budget Repair Bill is Fair
http://www.southmilwaukeenow.com/blogs/communityblogs/117006748.html
Just Union hacks being bused in to protest. People get that.
LOL!
AntwortenLöschenThink of them however you will but...
http://tnj2012.multiply.com/journal/item/734/100000_March_on_Walker_Photo_Diary?replies_read=8
What will be the end game?
I'm off.
Gotta go earn my pittance so i can pitch in my grand....
On top of my property taxes, sales taxes, state licensing fees... will do my part...just so everybody feels good ;-)
This is the Wisconsin (and other Republican led states) situation in a nutshell!
AntwortenLöschen""A Teabagger, a Union Member, and a CEO are sitting at a table with a dozen cookies. The CEO immediately takes eleven cookies for himself. He then turns to the Teabagger and says, “Watch out for that Union Member—they want part of your cookie."
— via Reddit.
Please read this and tell me where Corporate America is paying its fair share. It is in fact sucking every last penny out of the middle class's pockets.
AntwortenLöschenGE hasn't paid a cent in U.S. taxes, and were even paid 3.2 billion by the government. All their expansion has been overseas. Lotta good that did us.
Their line:
“We are committed to complying with tax rules and paying all legally obliged taxes. At the same time, we have a responsibility to our shareholders to legally minimize our costs.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/business/economy/25tax.html
Your line: "I think the bottom 50% need to start chipping in a little."
Keep chipping away, friends!
When it comes to taxation, one (not so) minor issue gets neglected, too.
AntwortenLöschenA corporation rights-off ALL of its expenses "necessary for doing business", whereas, an individual is not allowed to do that.
If I were a ONE MAN corporation offering SERVICE to others (which is exactly what I am doing), I would have been allowed to write-of ALL of my
housing foodclothingutilitiestransportationtelephoneetc etcexpenses
That would leave only my VACATION expenses taxable!
Take a person who makes $50K a year for his SERVICES provided to his banking client (meaning, he is an employee of a bank in conventional terms...)
Say, he pays rent at $1,500 per month (modest for major cities), drives a car bought for $20,000 (to be amortized over 5 years), spends $400/month on gasoline and car maintenance, restaurant expenses run at $25.- per day (very modest for businesses) etc...
That guy would not pay a single penny in taxes at the end of the year!
WOW.
Yet, poor bastard is denied that privilege because he is a "salaried" person instead of a service company.
I PROPOSE that every money-making operation should be under one and the same tax law.
AntwortenLöschenBut IRS has been vehemently rejecting that right to individuals.
The view is trivial:
there are EMPLOYERS and their slaves, called employees.
Whereas, today, there SHOULD not be anything like that: Any money making activity SHOULD be treated the same. If I am OFFERING my service, skill set and know-how to another, THAT is money making actvity and hence I am a one man corporation.
Heck, I *am* a natural corporation, a living CORPUS, a body, unlike those synthetic "corporates"
When that day comes, I would say we, as mankind, will have ourselves ABSOLVED form the historical premise of the Rulers vs the ruled, employers vs the employed.
See, all I am asking is an even play ground.
Randy:
AntwortenLöschenSometimes you show incredible vision of depth. I wonder if you could make a few comments about my reply above.