Donnerstag, 19. August 2010

The Rise of The Far Right in Europe: Hungary's Jobbik and the Roma

As most here no doubt know, far-right political parties including the British National Party did quite well at the last Euro elections, winning more seats than anticipated, enough to give them a more audible voice in Europe.  At the time, many here in Britain voted that way as a protest against the recession and the growing number of jobs going to foreign workers, and against immigration in general under a centre-left Labour government which had by now all but breathed its' dying breath.  I suspect many of those voters would not do so again, seeing now where it could lead - and although almost all of us are too young to remember the last time such a party gained power in Europe, we all know something of the history.  And nobody but the most die-hard Nationalists really want that.

Two things inspired this post.  Monday this week, I was in the group 'British Politics', where one such BNP-voter had posted an explanation, not perfect I thought, but fairly well presented, of his views on his own racial heritage, the background that informs his political views.  Fair enough, to my mind.  I will hear anyone's point of view whether I agree with them or not, provided they can come up with rational arguments and give evidence as to why they think this or that.  To summarise what he said, and he was clear it was a broad overview - he sees three significant 'racial groups' in Europe, which he splits into north and south.  Himself an 'Odinist', he identifies as 'Germanic'.  The other two he named were 'Gaul', or Gallic, and 'Latini', the latter including of course the Romans (the focus was the racial make-up of Britain) having mixed with the Islamic Moorish invasion to the south.  I was content that at least he had thought about it and reached an opinion - but I was left wondering about Slavs and Basques and Celts and so on.  He's in here, welcome to elaborate if there are any questions - but this isn't a partisan blog with the intent of calling him out for a duel.

Yesterday, another member of this group posted elsewhere, on France's immigration policy, specifically the deportation of 'gypsies', otherwise known as the Roma people, from Romania and other countries to the east.  Western Ukraine and Hungary have Roma minorities, I know.  Here, I was left questioning how France can do this, when an EU member-state's residents are free to travel and work anywhere else within the EU, with no visa.  Again, I am not challenging the author, just writing it all down really, in hope that some discussion will be generated and I can learn further.

The latter of these two posts reminded me of Jobbik - Hungary's far-right political party, closely allied with the BNP.  I had read back in about April that the Roma, as well as Jews, were being persecuted there.  I understand that Jobbik are not actually in power (I forget the name of the party that is - I don't read Hungarian so well), but still, their uniformed militia, the Magyar Garda, march through Roma villages 'creating an atmosphere of hatred', with their chosen scapegoats as the focal point. 

Jobbik claim their name has been slandered, that they stand against 'gypsy crime', not the people themselves, and that they are not anti-Semitic but against 'Israeli colonizers'.

Here follow some links, including Jobbik's own site, for you to digest. 

I've reproduced The Times' article in full.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article7094767.ece


Far-right party Jobbik makes breakthrough in Hungarian elections

A far-right party, with candidates that have voiced anti-Semitic and anti-Gypsy rhetoric, achieved a breakthrough last night in Hungarian elections, entering Parliament for the first time and finishing a strong third just behind the governing Socialists.

Jobbik, which has a uniformed wing that marches in military formation, made its gains at a time of a deep economic downturn and sour resentment that the former wunderkind of Central Europe is now the regional laggard.

The opposition centre-right Fidesz party won a landslide victory with more than 52 per cent of the vote, well ahead of the 19.3 per cent cast for the Socialists — who have presided over rising unemployment and harsh aust-erity measures under the terms of an IMF loan.

Fidesz, which last ruled between 1998 and 2002, has promised to create a million jobs over the next decade by tackling corruption, reforming a Byzantine tax system and reducing the black economy. It will be a gargantuan task.

Viktor Orban, Fidesz’s charismatic leader and the country’s next Prime Minister, last night declared that Hungarians had voted to "defeat hopelessness".

"I feel it with all my nerves, and know it deep in my heart, that I face the biggest task of my life," he told supporters.

However, there are fears that the strong showing by Jobbik, which has seen gains mirroring other far-right groups in Europe, could weaken investor confidence and deepen the country’s crisis.

Which may account for a stream of recent stories attacking Jobbik. The party’s spokesman Andras Kiraly resigned after pictures of him at the Toronto Gay Pride parade appeared on the internet, and a female member of the Magyar Garda, the party’s uniformed organisation, was revealed to have starred in a lesbian pornographic film.

"This is a battle for the undecided voters but we are getting stronger and stronger," said spokesman Zsolt Varkonyi. Mr Varkonyi said Jobbik is being slandered. It is not against Roma, only Roma criminals, and is not anti-Semitic but opposes "Israeli colonisers".

The rise of Jobbik, which is allied to the British National Party (BNP) in the European Parliament, also coincides with a surge in racism, xenophobia and anti-Semitism.

The Roma Gypsy minority are being targeted as scapegoats across Europe, said George Soros, the Hungarian-born financier and philanthropist. "There is no question that the crisis that hits people unexpectedly ... gets them angry and they want to take it out on someone," he said.

Despite being elected on a platform of social justice, the Socialists have allowed large parts of eastern Hungary to become an economic wasteland, while the situation of the Roma has further deteriorated, inflaming social tensions, say analysts.

"This is a supposedly leftist Government but over the past eight years the gap between rich and poor has drastically widened," said Gergely Böszörményi NagyGergely Borszomeny-Nagy, of the Perspective Institute, a think-tank.

"The Socialist Party has no serious vision for the country and has failed in its responsibilities. It is primarily a collection of different economic interest groups, based on their networks of contacts from the communist era."

The country’s new government faces a daunting task.

With unemployment standing at 11 per cent, inflation is almost 6 per cent. The economy shrank by 6.3 per cent in 2009 and harsh austerity measures have been implemented under the terms of an IMF standby loan of €20 billion in 2008.

Corruption has flourished under a governing class of both left and right, that like their Communist predecessors, regards public funds as their personal piggy- bank.

The current sour mood is far cry from the halcyon days of the 1990s.

Hungary’s reputation for skilled and talented workers has attracted more than €60 billion in foreign investment, the highest rate per capita in the region.

Many were lured by Hungary’s dazzling scientific and cultural heritage which has helped shape the modern world. Its scientists have won more than a dozen Nobel prizes, and its inventors have brought the world nuclear weapons and Vitamin C, the helicopter and carburettor. But a once dazzling education system now churns out graduates who are poorly equipped to compete in the global economic marketplace, say critics. Managers at western multi- national companies frequently complain that it is extremely difficult to recruit graduates with an adequate command of English, especially in comparison with neighbouring countries.

Jobbik draws much of its support from the young and is especially strong in many universities. The party has a slick, multi-national internet presence and has successfully sidestepped both the traditional political establishments and the mass media.

Unable to find work, many young people find refuge in an angry patriotism. But that is a meagre defence against the global economic recession.

The legacy of Communism still shapes many Hungarians' mental attitudes, says Miklos Feher, a business executive and life coach.

"Those values are still widespread, that there has to be big, godlike state to take care of everybody and solve everyone's problems. There is a sense that people have not grown up, and some of my clients think I will tell them what to with their father, or whether or not to get divorced, instead of deciding themselves. But at the same time young people distrust anything to do with power. So there is that contradiction."
   

17 Kommentare:

  1. I would suggest that by 'Germanic', the BNP guy meant 'Teutonic', and it should be remembered that, linguistically at least, Hungary is a pretty unique case in European terms. It's a wide scope and if anyone doesn't see my point here, that's because my knowledge of all this is inconclusive. I'm self-tutoring, with a fair bit of help from the smart folks of Multiplyland.

    Let's see if I can ask the right question. Where can the Roma people go (like the Jews in WW2) if they are kicked out of France? They are by definition a nomadic people, apparently wanted nowhere in particular and continually displaced. What are the parallels, if this was in the USA? Suppose it was the Navajo or some other (now minority) tribe?

    And where DO the Basques fit into the European mix, because I've found that one quite elusive. Seems to me their language is closer to Aztec than anything else, and one friend suggested they are probably the remnants of the earlier Minoan culture...

    *blank stare*

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  2. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11020429

    First planeload of deportees expected to land in Bucharest later today.

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  3. ”, the media are ignoring a massive story – the rise of Nazi terror groups in Britain.

    The Aryan Strike Force is one of several Nazi groups under investigation by anti-terror police following raids last summer which saw England’s largest seizure of a terrorist arsenal since the IRA mainland bombings of the early 1990s, including rocket launchers, grenades, pipe bombs and dozens of firearms. So far investigations have seen the following arrests:

    •In January BNP member Terence Gavan was jailed for 11 years after accumulating a stockpile of improvised explosive devices and other weapons, such as nail and ball-bearing bombs, shotguns and pistols. The Old Bailey heard that Gavan harboured “a strong hostility” towards immigrants. Only the Guardian put it on the front page – the Times gave it 57 words. The Telegraph went so far as to allow BNP chairman Simon Darby to make a disgraceful excuse for Gavan: “It’s the inevitable consequence of enforced multiculturalism. You are going to get more and more incidents like this.”

    •Last summer Neil Lewington was convicted of developing a bomb-making factory in his bedroom in Tilehurst, Reading. When he was arrested on a train he was carrying a bag of bombs. He was a member of the National Front. Lewington’s bedroom contained bomb ingredients and Nazi propaganda including videos of Right-wing terrorists such as BNP nail bomber David Copeland and Oklahoma fiend Timothy McVeigh.

    •In August 2009, 39-year-old Derbyshire man Neil MacGregor appeared in court for threatening to kidnap and behead a Muslim. “I’m a proud racist and a National Front member,” he told police. He walked free after being sentenced to three years’ probation; there was barely a mention in the media
    .
    •In June 2008, Marty Gilleard, a Nazi fanatic who stockpiled nail bombs under his son’s bed and idolised Adolf Hitler, was jailed for 16 years. He had membership cards for the National Front, the British People’s party and the White Nationalist party. He wrote: “I am so sick of hearing nationalists talk of killing Muslims, of blowing up mosques, of fighting back, only to see these acts of resistance fail to appear. The time has come to stop the talk and start to act.” He was arrested for child porn offences.

    Ian Davison and his son were first arrested in June 2009 by counter-terror police in County Durham who were investigating white supremacists. He was then charged with possession of ricin poison, said by the BBC to be 6,000 times more deadly than cyanide.
    As far as public debate goes, it’s as if these crimes have never happened.

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  4. OMG!
    Please REFRAIN from learning the "right" things from the USA. British are doing just fine on their own.

    The "American parallel" would suggest to assign them some desert land as reservation and lock them up there.

    The Roma people (gypsies) are mostly an "issue"(!) in the former Eastern Block countries, who were HASTILY admitted to the EU for POLITICAL reasons although their civil and economic "alignment" with the EU were totally unacceptable.

    In that sense, it is a price the EU HAS to pay.

    There are gypsies all over Europe. The "thorny"(!) ones are those from Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria.

    The lifestyle of these people is such that it has isolated them from assimilation into the society. In turn, that same characteristic has also made it extremely difficult for them to be "accepted" in society.

    Hence, it is a DOUBLE repelling factor: Gypsies by tradition do not want to adopt local lifestyles, and the locals will not embrace them because of that.

    Today, even if a gypsy child would DESIRE to join the resident society, s/he would be REJECTED outright anyway. It is a bit like the rejection of black people in the USA: We know that you are from the slums and hence I do not trust you.

    For centuries this has grown roots throughout Europe.

    ANY "fast" solution requires a REVERSE DISCRIMINATION kind of governmental action,

    For example, ANYONE claiming to be Romany, would have preferential admittance to schooling, government jobs, private sector jobs (tax rebates) etc.

    That is guaranteed to raise public outcry and resentment (as it does in the USA). Hence it needs to be continually "justified to people" why that is a good investment for their own children.

    These things takes "statesmanship", which Mr Sarkozy and other EU leaders are totally lacking.

    In the meantime, the price is paid by the French people and the Gypsies.

    Not unlike the "slum riots" of France a few years back.

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  5. Thanks, both of you. Superb replies!

    Devolution of Scotland, the Cyprus 'issue' (!) and the question of Turkey's admittance to the EU, to follow...

    Ok, ok. Maybe not. I've had enough arguments to deal with lately...

    :)

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  6. On the Roma culture, and this story about France deporting them, this is one of the best (most informative on a topic I'm interested in but know little about) threads I've EVER read on Multiply:

    http://elephantsmemory.multiply.com/journal/item/1153?mark_read=elephantsmemory:journal:1153&goto=0#reply0

    No exaggeration. The information there is worth a lifetime's study.

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  7. HAH...
    By the time Turkey is ready to be admitted, the EU will have disintegrated.

    For decades, the US and the UK had been pushing for a speedy ascent of TR to the EU, obviously for multiple political reasons.

    For myriad of reasons, (Vatican being one) the EU has been reluctant.

    After decades of frustration, the US has taken that matter into his own hands.

    Over the past 15 years, inexplicably, TR has been skyrocketing in terms of economy and social reforms.

    Please pay attention to "inexplicably", meaning for no OBVIOUS reasons.

    The underlying boost is due to an unprecedented influx of foreign capital to TR.

    Over that short period, the megalopolis of Istanbul has become a GIGA-POLIS. Unprecedented skyscrapers sprouted like mushrooms.

    Although I do not know the REAL reason, I believe that the US and some other Western countries have provided assurances to investors that the trade center of the Middle East will shift to Istanbul.

    The struggling, uncertain Turkey of the 1990s, is now a G20! One of the worlds biggest 20 economies... but, doing what? Import-export. A CONDUIT.

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  8. All well and good, and some interesting and informative stuff here.

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  9. Hmmm.... Interesting.

    I'm learning a lot from the post and the replies. :)

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  10. I've learned a fair bit too. I couldn't understand HOW France could kick out fellow EU members when they are legally allowed to roam the EU and work. But here's the punch. Roma in all likelihood, although they may come from Romania or wherever, do not carry a passport from that country. They are entitled to one, but don't want one (I generalise of course). Traditionally nomads, they don't have roots or ties to a specific place - in the event of their being persecuted like the Jews under Hitler and given some land elsewhere to go and settle, they probably wouldn't accept it. If you asked a Roma what their nationality was, they would say 'Roma', not 'Bulgarian' etc.

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  11. France can repatriate Roma, even though they come from EU-member states
    Romania and Bulgaria, if they are unable to prove they can support themselves.

    no fixed abode means no right to benefits and the camps are illegal.
    ( not saying I agree with it ) some were squats , illegally occupied land or buildings. They are free to return - and many say they will.

    An estimated 15,000 Roma from Bulgaria and Romania are thought to live in France. As citizens of the European Union, they can travel to France, but if they choose to stay more than three months they must prove they are working or studying and can support themselves

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/france/100820/france-roma-eu-citizenship-gypsies

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  12. You know I first tried to formulate a reply comparing basques with the Flemish speaking people in in Belgium who are also (in their way fighting for a homeland), that (I'm Flemish) technically never existed.
    That is the reason why we Belgians) have some government problems our politicians are debating more autonomy for all (3) Flemish, Walloon and German) parts.
    UK has the same internal problems.


    I need to read up about the Roma.
    But maybe we should turn this Roma thing around and see it as a right to roam Europe.
    Maybe we need to change our complete society to give everybody the potential to roam Europe as Roma's do. (imagine many town having its legal camping area for not only Roma, where we pay taxes as everybody else etc,generate a social control, ID registration, social security, school etc.)
    In such case our society would no longer see them as outcasts as they will contribute, logically they would be forced to stay a little longer at one place. (many ideas pop into my mind, but if they are useful ideas... is a different question)

    For sure we would need to inform everybody even our children how to act if one wants to roam, no exception (i don't think you can get more equal then that).
    It would take a lot of wind away from the far right and open "a" door to Roma integration, just as people living on boats and roam our waters for a living.

    How hard it may be I understand France, it is a structural and costly problem if you can't integrate people in an overall system.
    So France has for the moment no other tools at hand (it stays a worse solution) but France can't solve this alone, as the area they roam in is total Europe and borders are open.
    It may be a good signal to Europe though.

    But I would not compare them with Jews. That is more a dungeons an dragon thing (belief issue) ^_^.and they already have their Disney land in the middle east (Sorry).

    But a solution to Roma's problems may become an asset for the whole of Europe. (but it will take time, especially in Romania and Hungary)

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  13. Excellent article but (lol there's got to be a but) IMHO the increased vote for the BNP was more to do with the fact that the UK government (s) over the last 50 years have failed to address the whole question of immigration. This has led to a situation where no-one, in government, has any idea how many overstayers or illegal immigrants are actually in the country and the problem is magnified by the tabloid press and creates concern, unrest and a vote for the right. IMHO they want nothing more than the problem to be addressed.

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  14. I look forward to at least two of them.

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  15. I was joking about Scotland. I think it's coming soon, devolution and the breakup of the United Kingdom before Europe hoovers up the pieces, but I wouldn't know where to start, writing about it. Turkey/Greece debate would be MOST welcome on this group - but I'll remain referee for that, I think. I have my reasons ;)

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  16. That American wishful thinking. And all this just to rule the world.
    We know what they're up to, some older generations are still blind for it, but we see the US trying every day, trying to divide European leaders, even use NATO to drag us in things the masses really don't support, we are not blind.
    Why do you think Europe, although we politically still shake hands on television, not really trust you enymore.

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  17. The first reason was pure imperialism, than that would have been a bad idea.
    Now If TR keeps evolving as it is doing it will be and Islamic democracy, (notice the biggest common divisor) but it still has a long way to go to comply to all other legal requirements and notice that the balance would seriously shift toward the east, you can't force things like that.
    Give them and the Europeans time, if they succeed to integrate properly, I will not be surprised that countries as Russia even Iran and Syria will ever be part of this community.
    That would be the day, but first Europeans will need to adapt to the idea of TR entering.
    And the Vatican... what is the Vatican but a political lobby system.
    it is loosing grip on European society fast, and thx to just that we will be able to incorporate more.

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