Montag, 30. Juli 2012

"Culture makes all the difference" says Mitt Romney

Were Romney's comments RACIST?

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By KASIE HUNT and KARIN LAUB

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JERUSALEM (AP) - Mitt Romney told Jewish donors Monday that their culture is part of what has allowed them to be more economically successful than the Palestinians, outraging Palestinian leaders who suggested his comments were racist and out of touch with the realities of the Middle East. His campaign later said his remarks were mischaracterized.

"As you come here and you see the GDP per capita, for instance, in Israel which is about $21,000 dollars, and compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority, which is more like $10,000 per capita, you notice such a dramatically stark difference in economic vitality," the Republican presidential candidate told about 40 wealthy donors who ate breakfast at the luxurious King David Hotel.

Romney said some economic histories have theorized that "culture makes all the difference."

"And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things," Romney said, citing an innovative business climate, the Jewish history of thriving in difficult circumstances and the "hand of providence." He said similar disparity exists between neighboring countries, like Mexico and the United States.

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Palestinian reaction to Romney was swift and pointed.

"It is a racist statement and this man doesn't realize that the Palestinian economy cannot reach its potential because there is an Israeli occupation," said Saeb Erekat, a senior aide to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.

"It seems to me this man lacks information, knowledge, vision and understanding of this region and its people," Erekat added. "He also lacks knowledge about the Israelis themselves. I have not heard any Israeli official speak about cultural superiority."

As criticism mounted while Romney traveled to Poland, campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said: "His comments were grossly mischaracterized." The Republican's campaign contends Romney's comparison of countries that are close to each other and have wide income disparities - the U.S. and Mexico, Chile and Ecuador - shows his comments were broader than just the comparison between Israel and Palestine.

While speaking to U.S. audiences, Romney often highlights culture as a key to economic success and emphasizes the power of the American entrepreneurial spirit compared to the values of other countries. But his decision to highlight cultural differences in a region where such differences have helped fuel violence for generations raises new questions about the former businessman's diplomacy skills.

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As he has at home, Romney in Jerusalem cited a book titled, "Guns, Germs and Steel," that suggests the physical characteristics of the land account for the differences in the success of the people that live there.

"And you look at Israel and you say you have a hard time suggesting that all of the natural resources on the land could account for all the accomplishment of the people here," Romney said, before citing another book, "The Wealth and Poverty of Nations," by former Harvard professor David Landes.

This book, Romney said in Jerusalem, concludes that "if you could learn anything from the economic history of the world it's this: Culture makes all the difference. Culture makes all the difference."

The economic disparity between the Israelis and the Palestinians is actually much greater than Romney stated. Israel had a per capita gross domestic product of about $31,000 in 2011, while the West Bank and Gaza had a per capita GDP of just over $1,500, according to the World Bank.

Romney, seated next to billionaire casino owner Sheldon Adelson at the head of the table, told donors that he had read books and relied on his own business experience to understand why the difference is so great.

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His comparison of the two economies did not take into account the stifling effect the Israeli occupation has had on the Palestinian economy in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem - areas Israel captured in 1967 where the Palestinians hope to establish a state.

In the West Bank, Palestinians have only limited self-rule. Israel controls all border crossings in and out of the territory, and continues to restrict Palestinian trade and movement. Israel annexed east Jerusalem in 1967, but has invested much less heavily there than in Jewish west Jerusalem.

And although Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip in 2005, it continues to control access and has enforced a crippling border blockade since the Islamic militant Hamas seized the territory in 2007.

It's true that Israel has logged tremendous achievements, said Abraham Diskin, a political science professor at the Inter-Disciplinary Center outside of Tel Aviv. But "you can understand this remark in several ways," he added. "You can say it's anti-Semitic. 'Jews and money.'"

The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund repeatedly have said that the Palestinian economy can only grow if Israel lifts those restrictions.

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"It's Israeli occupiers and Palestinians under occupation, and that's why Palestinians cannot realize their potential," Erekat said.

The breakfast with top donors - including Adelson, New York Jets owner Woody Johnson and hedge fund manager Paul Singer - concluded Romney's visit to Israel, the second leg of a three-nation overseas tour designed to bolster his foreign policy credentials.

Standing on Israeli soil for the first time as the GOP's presumptive presidential nominee, Romney on Sunday declared Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel and said the U.S. has promised never to "look away from our passion and commitment to Israel."

The status of Jerusalem is a critical issue in peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

In Israel, Romney did not meet with Abbas or visit the West Bank. He met briefly with Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.

Romney's campaign says the trip, which began in England last week, is aimed at improving the former Massachusetts governor's foreign policy experience through a series of meetings with foreign leaders. The candidate has largely avoided direct criticism of U.S. President Barack Obama while on foreign soil.

The Jerusalem fundraiser, however, was a political event that raised more than $1 million for Romney's campaign. It marks at least the second finance event during his tour. The first, in London, attracted about 250 people to a $2,500-per-person fundraiser.

Both presidential candidates have aggressively courted American donors living abroad, a practice that is legal and has been used for decades.

Romney's declaration that Jerusalem is Israel's capital was in keeping with claims made by Israeli governments for decades, even though the United States, like other nations, maintains its embassy in Tel Aviv.

His remarks on the subject during a speech drew a standing ovation from the audience, which included Adelson, the American businessman who has promised to donate more than $100 million to help defeat Obama.

Adelson was among a several donors who flew to Israel for a day of sightseeing with Romney in addition to private meetings with top Israeli officials.

Romney flew to the Middle East from Britain, where he caused a stir by questioning whether officials there were fully prepared for the Olympic Games. A stop in Poland will complete his trip.

Four years ago, Obama visited Israel as a presidential candidate, part of a five-nation trip meant to establish his own foreign policy credentials.

A goal of Romney's overseas trip is to demonstrate his confidence on the world stage, but the stop in Israel also was designed to appeal to evangelical voters at home and cut into Obama's support among Jewish voters and donors. A Gallup survey of Jewish voters released Friday showed Obama with a 68-25 edge over Romney.

Romney and other Republicans have said Obama is insufficiently supportive of Israel.

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Associated Press writers Amy Teibel in Jerusalem and Steve Peoples in Washington contributed to this report. 


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38 Kommentare:

  1. I love these comments by Romney. Of course culture makes a difference. A cure for cancer is never going to come from an Islamic country. They are too busy beating their women, installing Sharia law and waging terror on the non believers.

    It's a 3rd world culture. Romney is right.

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  2. Couldn't be more inconsiderate and Crass. When one speaks he needs to speak to the entire audience.....not just the favored few!

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  3. Whether racist or not, it was freaking stupid. If he is this diplomatic in his dealings with the world now, just imagine how much he would destroy what little credibility the USA has around the world if he were to become president.

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  4. yes... within news international which owns fox news and which has admitted to criminal activity right to the top in its news gathering and has been caught out lying to the public around the world... with them, America still has credibility.

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  5. I think the present administration has done a lot to try and restore Americas' good name Hillary and Obama can be proud of the EFFORT!

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  6. They also own the Wall Street Journal that brought us the "Xerox invented the Internet story". So, er, how does an organization that has no credibility itself lend credibility to anybody else?

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  7. It was a home run speech by Romney. He will go a long way to undoing the damage done by Obama. in regards to our ME policy.

    I want a president that calls it like it is. When Europe loves our president it's NEVER good for us. They loved Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Obama. All political losers at home.

    Meanwhile, Europe hated Two Term Reagan, Two Term GWB and every other strong two term successful president that we have had. They like the weak one term presidents. Obama is next in line.

    The fact that they hate Romney is great news for the USA.

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  8. The American foreign policy regarding the Middle East has been an ongoing car crash for 50 years or more. It is peppered with wars, support for dictators (which has bitten America in the arse more than once), forced regime change and looking the other way when civilians have been killed by friendly governments. When you talk about undoing damage, are you talking about to the other nations of the world or to the egos of fox news pundits?

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  9. It is probably a view held by many but he really should appreciate that as a presidential candidate any comments to any audience will be reported widely. On balance, although it was an ill-judged statement he has most likely gained a few votes from it.

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  10. He knew exactly what he was doing. He is speaking the truth and going after the Jewish vote in the USA.

    Gutsy speech.

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  11. He was going after the votes of both the Jews and the Christian Zionists, truth does not come into it.

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  12. Exactly!
    He is a nightmare, possibly worse than W.
    At least with W others thought of him as simply an incompetent boob.
    Romney is an incompetent boob who sees himself as better than anyone "below" his class.

    Even Republicans are embarrassed by him!

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  13. Totally agree with Saeb Ekrat (from text above). Palestine is under an Israeli stranglehold, hardly likely to enjoy economic growth. Had to vote 'other' - Jew is not a race.

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  14. Don't worry, he won't, at least not this time. Guarantee it. Trouble is, he HAS got the pedigree, some good financial backing, a celebrity face, and is still young enough to run again in 4 years...

    I don't know why we all can't see past partisan politics anyway. Whoever is in Office, they'll still answer to the same people at the NSA, CIA, corporations and banks. Have contributed here on your thread really, Randy, to be polite. The whole 'us and them' attitude of it all got tiresome long ago. Obama is already unpopular by the way, he won't need another term to do that. Even his massive spending is in his masters' favour - the more government has to borrow from the Fed, the better for them. If I could vote there, I'd still prefer him to Hillary or John Kerry, but more likely to vote Paul or even Green. A perspective, for what it's worth.

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  15. Oh no, Mitt Romney angered the perpetually angry Palestinians.

    Gov. Romney has the unmitigated gall to actually speak the truth and neither the Palestinians nor the American left like it.

    Uncle Sam has given the Palestinians $5 billion since 1994.

    For what? They are still living caves. You think they might use that money to pave a road or something.

    The money we give to Israel is for security only. I support this as they are the only free and democratic society in the ME.

    Meanwhile in Israel, the GDP has risen from $66 billion in 1993 to $243 billion in 2011 — per capita, from $12,500 to $31,000.

    CULTURE MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!



    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/inconvenient_truth_v0YgFJUTGIwWPibQYoF3LI#ixzz22DOnr367

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  16. So what happened to you, Ran? ;-P

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  17. Somali comedian who poked fun at Islamists shot dead

    Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19169024/somali-comedian-who-poked-fun-at-islamists-shot-dead#ixzz22JycGS00

    This is precisely why a superior culture, such as American and Israeli culture, thrived.....and precisely why inferior, primitive cultures, such as Palestinian and Somalian, failed.....

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  18. I can agree totally to the statement that culture makes a difference, Randy.

    But the consensus ends at the question which culture is desirable. I always respected Jews for their genius, but I don't see genius how they behave in ME, just hostile confrontation to the Arabs who surround them. Maybe this still is the consequence from what they suffered over the centuries, and what crimes my people did to them, but I believe one better should co-operate with ones neighbors instead of confront them and suppress their relatives who happen to live in the territory one conquered.

    The problem is, that they can get through with that because the USA supports them, whatever they do, regarding the Jewish voters in USA. This is what Romney is standing for. I think the position of Obama is wiser, when he doesn't back every idiocy of the Israeli politics.

    And when I was in Israel 6 years ago, I found, that Israel is no longer a country of haunted victims from Europe, especially Germany, but of people from Russian, Ethiopian and Sephardic descend, just from everywhere they can get immigrants to balance the Arab fertility. I'm sure this can't go on forever, the country is too small for this.

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  19. Yeah cuz this never happens in America...
    Gay man beaten, strung up to a fence, and left to die. Another outed on Facebook then takes his own life jumping off a bridge. Countless even younger kids who are unmercifully bullied (usually because they are gay) have committed suicide.

    And that's just the Gay "cultural superiority" examples. Should i go into the racial ones... or maybe the sexist ones?
    And don't try to say they're not a cultural trait of the country.

    This type of thing is so widely accepted and encouraged in many families, schools, and churches, in many parts of our country.
    And many of our Conservative politicians and certainly the talk show hosts encourage and/or make excuses for all such abuses. Why? Because this is in our culture... born of Puritanism, religiosity, the conformist mentality behind so called "assimilation" expected of immigrants...
    It all says if you're not like us you are not acceptable and we will feel less (if any) empathy if you face trouble or abuse.

    Nice try though, Ran.

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  20. It also occurred to me that (apologies to Ulla) the culture of Germany is... and more importantly, WAS a thriving one...
    One that considered the Jews culturally inferior and devised a plan to correct that.
    Just sayin...


    There are tribes of Aboriginal people in South America who are barely beyond primitive stage, yet they are completely peaceful and practice total cooperation between among their peoples (sort of like "socialism") and live an idilic life, despite the chaos which surrounds them.

    Cultural superiority is a seriously flawed concept and just so much bullshit!

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  21. Not really trying. It's all based in facts. The USA put a man on the moon in 1969.

    Palestine can barely handle the complexities of indoor plumbing.

    It's a culture thing. Romney is right.

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  22. Trolling is beneath you Randy.
    My examples show that Mittens (and YOU apparently) are full of shit.
    You both (typically) confuse riches with culture. "Greed is good", right? Cultural superiority at its best
    To most of us it's painfully obvious you can't simply buy culture... and certainly not class.

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  23. What does this have to do with putting a man on the moon. I pretty sure greed was not a factor. Too often you let your fascist reactionary leftism take over over instead of using basic cognitive and neural processes that would help you arrive at a more reasoned answer.

    Keep trying! It's takes a while for some people to get the hang of this.

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  24. 75% of severe blood cancers cured in Iran through cellular grafting
    About 75 percent of malignant and benign blood cancers as well as genetic and metabolic disease are being treated through cellular grafting in Iran.
    Seventy five percent of malignant and benign blood cancers and genetic and metabolic disease are curable through cellular grafting," according to Dr. Ardeshir Qavamzadeh.

    Iranian scientists have produced a new radioactive drug to treat prostate and lung cancer.
    http://news.am/eng/news/47540.html
    Ga-bombesin 68 was developed in the center of medical, industrial, and agricultural research in Karaj,
    http://www.payvand.com/news/12/feb/1054.html
    An Iranian scientist managed to develop a new method to propagate human spermatogonial stem cells from small testicular biopsies to obtain adequate number of cells for successful transplantation for 18000-fold in vitro, leading to protection of the fertility of immature boys suffering from canc

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  25. Thanks, Jan.
    I'm not surprised that FEW knew of this, but i'd have thought someone with Randy's "superior" intellect and total grasp of all geopolitical issues would have known this, or else never would have gone off half cocked, spewing typical Con jingoistic ...crap!

    I'm happy to admit i'm not up on it all but it's only common sense that a nation like Iran would be quite advanced.
    Unfortunately, people like Randy see Muslims as primitive, blood thirsty savages incapable of equal or better technology than the "exceptional" USA and our bosom buddies, the Israelis.

    It is arrogance as displayed by Mittens and other Cons which is hurting relations internationally and renders Mitt the Twit an insulting laughing stock among world leaders and an embarrassment to Americans.

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  26. I am happy that these Iranian doctors, who were educated in the WEST, are finally bringing advanced medicine to the middle east for the first time. That's great. Better late than never.

    Here is what you need to know. There are ZERO westerners going to Muslim lands to get advanced medical care or to attend top flight universities.

    There revers happens all the time. Our universities and hospitals are flooded with people from third world Islamic countries.

    Because our CULTURE is superior. Israel is so advanced. It's light years ahead of it's islamic neighbors.

    Why this pisses people off I have no idea. I want more Israels and less Palestines and Syria's.

    Mitt speaks the truth and the left goes batshit crazy!!! It's fun to watch.

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  27. It's also fun to watch the nearly double digit lead Obama has taken over Mittens simply by pointing out his obvious failings and asking for some transparency in his tax dealings. Something Mittens is mysteriously reluctant to share with us... i wonder why.

    Funny how the Cons are going batshit crazy about the ongoing requests for that, but had little, if anything to say about the constant and continuous droning of the Birthers in regard to Obama's birth certificate... hypocrisy... the Conservative creed.

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  28. You're probably right as far as the national results.
    I was mistakenly reporting results from specific states.. many of them the battleground states where the numbers are VERY different. And on specific issues Mittens is making W look like a genius and a statesmen.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/swing-state-poll-romney-still-struggling-to-convince-voters-he-cares/2012/08/01/gJQAjKoAPX_story.html

    How all that will shake out in November is still too early to tell.

    Nonetheless, Mittens is anything but an attractive candidate which is why the numbers are so close even this late, and in the face of such vast hatred of Obama.
    Pity you couldn't have dug up a better candidate than this out of touch prep school doofus.

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  29. BTW... It's only the RICH from any country who can afford to go anywhere else than their own local doctor. And for far too many people here in the US, that doesn't happen. Those people rely on Medicaid and free clinics and emergency rooms if they seek medical care at all.

    I love how Cons boast about the US having the very best medicine in the world, when under their lead, only those with lots of money have access to any of it.... and they are bound and determined to see to it that is severely cut or done away with.
    If you can't pay for care you need to just quietly die here in the land of the free and the home of the brave.

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  30. Malaysia was recently found to be the most popular medical tourism destination with the growing numbers of Asia’s wealthiest. They travel to Malaysia for major treatments because it has one of the best health services in,
    not only Asia, but the world.
    Malaysia is also one of the most popular destinations with those travelling from English speaking destinations (US and UK). This is because, as an ex-British colony there is a high prevalence of English speakers in the health sector. Tourism from the two combines to make Malaysia one of the fastest growing medical tourism destinations, and well worth a property investment tailored to that market.

    http://freemarketmojo.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/top-5-medical-tourism-destinations/

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  31. Medical tourism... what a concept! ;-)

    Some of us would welcome the opportunity to "tour a beach, see some sights or even explore our own country.

    PFFFT!

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  32. see a few sights and have a heart transplant .. so relaxing :))))

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  33. Gerald Celente, director of The Trends Research Institute in New York, who is much quoted in the business media. “According to the World Health Organization, the U.S. currently ranks 39th in the world for infant mortality; 37th for health care, and 24th for longevity,” he says. We also rank last among 19 industrialized countries in preventable medical deaths.
    “Americans need to rethink that we are first in very much at all anymore,” he continues. “In fact, according to the international Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development [one of the world’s most reliable sources of comparable statistics and economic data], the U.S. doesn’t even win, place, or show. There are any number of hospitals around the world where infection control rates, medical outcomes, and patient treatment and satisfaction are much better than ours.”

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  34. Oh Jan... why must you try to burst the little bubble of "American exceptionalism" some people live in?
    I fear your efforts are for naught with that crowd.
    They are not ones to be swayed by facts. They have their myths of cultural, moral, and technological superiority they must cling to in order to sleep well and get them through their days, even in face of such evidence to the contrary.
    I guess it's like religion... everything is all right (or will be) with God on OUR side...*eye roll*

    The major problem remains that no matter how much we may think we have the best medicine, it makes NO difference if only those with money have access to it. Thus the abysmal numbers.

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