Donnerstag, 3. Dezember 2009

Debunking Myths: Shroud of Turin


http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/entry/shroud_of_turin_developments/
One thing I've never understood about the Shroud of Turin is, if it is supposed to be Jesus Christ, why does it depict an apparently Caucasian man with long hair... the traditional image that the Roman Catholic church adopted down the years? In all likelihood, if Jesus Christ ever existed, he did not look like this. But I digress...

There is religion bashing and there is myth-busting. This post is not supposed to be offensive. I am an atheist and I'm free to express my non-belief. I do not accept the Christian Bible as a document of historical evidence, nor for that matter any Holy scripture, and based on my limited knowledge of the subject, I'm inclined to believe that a) Yeshua ben Joseph never existed and was a character, if anything, based on earlier folklore, and b) if the Shroud of Turin depicts a real person and is not a clever forgery, it is probably the image of Jacques de Molay.

I think it's fake as a silicon implant...

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Two developments regarding the Shroud of Turin, with its imprint of an apparently crucified man, are a study in contrasts.

One is the claim by a Vatican archives researcher, Barbara Frale, that she has found evidence helping to authenticate the supposed burial cloth of Jesus. In her book (published in Italian), The Shroud of Jesus Nazarene (2009), Frale claims to have discovered faint words scattered over the cloth in Aramaic, Greek, and Latin. She asserts that the Greek words “(J)esu(s) Nazarene” (i.e., “Jesus of Nazareth”) in the head region prove the text was not medieval, even though the earliest certain reference to the “shroud” was a 14th century bishop’s report claiming an artist confessed to having “cunningly painted” the shroud image. Frale insists no medieval artist would have so referred to Jesus without noting his divinity—a rather silly argument given that the cloth is a supposed relic, not an artist’s rendering.

Frale’s work is reminiscent of that of Shroud devotee Alan Whanger. He had even many shroud advocates rolling their eyes over his alleged discovery of just such words, “Jesus” and “Nazareth,” as well as alleged imprints of flowers, crucifixion-associated items such as a large nail, hammer, sponge, spear, scourges, sandals, rope, dice, etc., etc.—all perceived Rorschach style in the shroud’s mottled image and off-image areas. (See my Relics of the Christ 2007, 140–142.) Shroud researcher Gian Marco Rinaldi, speaking of the images on which Frale’s findings were based, stated: “These computer enhancements increase contrast in an unrealistic way to bring out these signs. You can find them all over the shroud, not just near the head, and then with a bit of imagination, you see letters.” (See Ariel David, AP, “Researcher says words on shroud prove it was Jesus’ burial cloth,” Buffalo News, Nov. 21, 2009.)

In contrast to Frale’s dubious discoveries on the controversial linen cloth, which has been carbon-dated to about the time of the forger’s confession (circa 1350s), is the work of Luigi Garlaschelli, professor of organic chemistry at the University of Pavia. Using hypotheses I advanced in my Inquest on the Shroud of Turin (1983; 1998), Garlaschelli determined to reproduce the shroud as a full-size replica, with the properties of the original. (For example, the shroud has sparse red-ocher pigment, confined to the tops of the threads.)

He used specially hand-woven linen, laid over a volunteer, with a bas-relief substituted for the face to avoid wrap-around distortions. He used a version of my rubbing technique with the added hypothesis of an acidic pigment that, over time, mostly sloughed off but left behind a ghostly image due to the acid degrading the cellulose. Garlaschelli artificially aged the result, then washed off the pigment. As he notes, the resulting image possessed “all the characteristics of the Shroud of Turin.” He added: “In particular, the image is a pseudo-negative, is fuzzy with half-tones, resides on the topmost fibers of the cloth, has some 3-D embedded properties, and does not fluoresce” (quoted in Massimo Polidoro, “The Shroud of Turin Duplicated,” Skeptical Inquirer science magazine, Jan./Feb. 2010, 18).

Garlaschelli’s work stands in stark contrast to the wishful thinking of the Barbara Frales and Alan Whangers of the world. The latter exemplify what I have called “shroud science” which begins with the desired answer and works backward to the evidence, picking and choosing. Science, on the other hand, lets the evidence lead to an answer. I was on hand when Garlaschelli presented his results at Italy’s largest science fair in Genoa. He dedicated his illustrated lecture to me, too-generously saying I was “the brain” and he “only the hands.” In fact I am humbled to have been mentioned regarding such a wonderful accomplishment. It shows shroud science trumped by real science.

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Joe Nickell, Ph.D., is Senior Research Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI) and "Investigative Files" Columnist for Skeptical Inquirer. A former stage magician, private investigator, and teacher, he is author of numerous books, including Inquest on the Shroud of Turin (1998), Pen, Ink and Evidence (2003), Unsolved History (2005) and Adventures in Paranormal Investigation (2007). He has appeared in many television documentaries and has been profiled in The New Yorker and on NBC's Today Show. His personal website is at joenickell.com.

29 Kommentare:

  1. 'course it's fake. but like all myths it has plenty of supporters.

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  2. Honestly I believe some atheists tend to exhibit the very same fanaticism and rigidity as their religious counterparts; i.e. complete intolerance of others ideals and a desire to badger people until they concede to believe the “correct” position.

    "First off, there's atheist victimology: Boohoo, everybody hates us 'cuz we don't believe in God. Although a recent Pew Forum survey on religion found that 16% of Americans describe themselves as religiously unaffiliated but only 1.6% call themselves atheists!"

    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/17/opinion/oe-allen17

    My problem is that the 1.6% are so frigging LOUD!

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  3. That's always been my confusion over the Shroud......
    Why does it depict a Caucasian?
    Shouldn't it look like someone from the Middle East?

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  4. You try living in a society where that kind of schizophrenia is considered normal, even expected, and let me know how long you manage to keep your mouth shut.

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  5. So far there's no known painting technique how the color could have been painted or printed on this textile. Chemical there IS no color on or in the fiber, as far as I know.

    There have been several theories and speculations around the shroud and so far none of them have been proven until now.

    I took this proposed chronology of the shroud

    A PROPOSED CHRONOLOGY

    Blending the central core of Ian Wilson’s Mandylion theory with the trilogy of proposals that the author has advanced in papers presented to the Nice International Scientific Symposium in 1997, the Turin Third International Congress in 1998, and the Richmond International Conference in 1999 produces the following chronology:

    30-47 Peter conceals the Passion relics in Jerusalem.
    47 Peter brings the Passion relics to Antioch.
    47-357 The Church of Antioch conceals the Passion relics.
    357-362 Arians exhibit the Passion relics in Antioch’s Golden Basilica.
    362 Theodoretus conceals the Passion relics in the Golden Basilica.
    362-528 The Passion relics remain hidden in the Golden Basilica.
    528-540 Monophysites discover the Shroud in the Golden Basilica.
    540 Monophysite refugees bring the Shroud to Edessa.
    544 The Shroud is fire damaged as Edessa defeats the Persian army.
    544-549 The Shroud is portraitized to become the Image of Edessa.
    549-944 The Edessans venerate the holy icon "not made by human hands".
    944-1204 The Byzantines venerate the Mandylion and sindon in Constantinople.
    1098 Crusaders discover the Holy Lance in Antioch.
    1170 Grail romances, with lance, cup, shroud, and Syrian roots, appear in the West.
    1204 The Shroud disappears during the Crusader sack of Constantinople.
    1204-1349 Cathars conceal the Shroud in Languedoc.
    1349 Geoffrey de Charny acquires the Shroud pursuant to the terms of a royal grant.
    1355 Geoffrey de Charny exhibits the Shroud in Lirey.
    1910 Arabs discover the Great Chalice at the site of Antioch’s ancient cathedral.

    CONCLUSION

    The author suggests that the proposed early sojourn of the Shroud in Antioch provides both a plausible biography for the relic prior to its appearance in Edessa and also a credible explanation of why its existence during that early period was not historically documented. He believes that the first ChristianGrail romances were inspired by the disappearance of Antioch’s Church treasures in the fourth century. He considers it more than mere coincidence that the chronicled history of the Shroud begins almost immediately after the glorious history of ancient Antioch concludes.

    from http://www.greatdreams.com/shroud_of_turin.htm

    I could have taken others, there's enough in the web and I don't want to dive deeper into it. But reading the chronology it seems more plausible to me that our imagination of Jesus' face has been formed by the shroud, which has been shown public several times in the 2000 years, than it has been painted on the shroud after artworks of the Christian European painters.

    I don't know much about about Caucasian faces, to me the bone structure and nose look Semite/Arab.

    I'm far away of believing in miracles, I believe there are rational explanations for everything in our real world, I'm just convinced that we don't know enough. And all these unanswered questions and mysteries remind us, that we still can't explain everything and have to continue our search for answers. It keeps us modest in a way, doesn't it?

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  6. people wrapped in a cloth do not leave a single flat image`,I think it must be Leonardo once again trying to fool the masses with an experiment in photography on cloth,To enhance the myth ,that Jesus was real ,not the Sun reborn as we previously thought .22

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  7. people wrapped in a cloth do not leave a single flat image`,I think it must be Leonardo once again trying to fool the masses with an experiment in photography on cloth,To enhance the myth ,that Jesus was real ,not the Sun reborn as we previously thought .22

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  8. people wrapped in a cloth do not leave a single flat image`,I think it must be Leonardo once again trying to fool the masses with an experiment in photography on cloth,To enhance the myth ,that Jesus was real ,not the Sun reborn as we previously thought .

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  9. people wrapped in a cloth do not leave a single flat image`,I think it must be Leonardo once again trying to fool the masses with an experiment in photography on cloth,To enhance the myth ,that Jesus was real ,not the Sun reborn as we previously thought .

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  10. people wrapped in a cloth do not leave a single flat image`,I think it must be Leonardo once again trying to fool the masses with an experiment in photography on cloth,To enhance the myth ,that Jesus was real ,not the Sun reborn as we previously thought .

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  11. this page will not let me print what I was gonna say ,and it was not bad language.
    how can this be a forum if you sensor my opinion

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  12. Who censored? I saw your post appearing many times.

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  13. Maybe it's a current Multiply-glitch. They still are moving.

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  14. You saw only the opening line ,the rest would not go through, i tried about 5 times.
    It was something about leonardo da vinci

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  15. ...only: people wrapped in a cloth do not leave a single flat image`,I think it must be Leonardo once again trying to fool the masses with an experiment in photography on cloth,To enhance the myth ,that Jesus was real ,not the Sun reborn as we previously thought .

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  16. hallo that is what I am trying to tell you ,you guys are censoring my text as i subject it ,i press submit and only a small part of the text goes through and appears here .

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  17. Sorry, I am not 'you guys' and I didn't censor. Usually I value your comments. :)

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  18. that is the same that was half of what i send

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  19. :) I suggest we delete this private conversation about the multiply glitch, it might be confusing for others.

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  20. sure I am not getting anywhere ,nobody understands me,and i have been censored by somebody ,and it is not the first time ,and what was censored was not very profound or important anyway,not really worth censoring.
    now you can delete all these postins ,

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  21. Maybe you'll send what you wanted to post in a PM to me and I try to post it? I want your voice be heard here.

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  22. No its something in that particular text,anything else i say has no problem.There are other censors on route that could prove pigeon innocent

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  23. I am not Christian but if a number of people base their faith on something like this so be it, This is their right to believe in a picture, a cloth , a painting, a statue an idea, a myth. The real fact is no one can really prove if their religion is any better than anyone else's. Until you are in an after life you have no idea what will await you. I had a friend she would pray in Church's, Synagogues, Buddhist temples and even in mosques. When I asked her about belief , she said, I don't want to die and be somewhere that I am not familiar with, if God has six arms and a elephants trunk I want to be prepared.

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  24. Randy - what's that reactionary babble? This post was in no way dissing Catholicism, the authenticity of the Shroud is well within this group's theme.

    Roel - lots of deleting going on... if you're concerned it wasn't fit for print, please either send me a pm, or if you don't trust me, someone else...

    Jeff - Thanks for the info. I do tend to regard Ed Case with scorn and apprehension, but I might look further into some of that.

    Ulla - thanks also. Sounds like it's not a painting. Could be Mr. Molay then...

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  25. randy see you hav been well nipping on those chocolates again-

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  26. Actually that physical description of Christ does appear at the bottom of that Last Supper Link.

    LETTER TO TIBERIAS

    Few people are aware, that there is in existence today, in the Archives in Rome, a description of Christ. It is contained in a report written nearly two thousand years ago, by a Roman, Publius Lentulus, to his Emperor, Tiberias. It reads:

    "There has appeared in Palestine a man who is still living and whose power is extraordinary. He has the title given him of Great Prophet, his disciples call him 'Son of God'. He raises the dead and heals all sorts of diseases."He is a tall, well proportioned man, and there is an air of severity in his countenance which at once attracts the love and reverence of those who see him. His hair is the colour of new wine from the roots to the ears, and thence to the shoulders it is curled and falls down to the lowest part of them. Upon the forehead, it parts in two after the manner of Nazarenes.

    "His forehead is flat and fair, his face without blemish or defect, and adorned with a graceful expression. His nose and mouth are very well proportioned, his beard is thick and the colour of his hair. His eyes are grey and extremely lively.

    "In his reproofs, he is terrible, but in his exhortations and instructions, amiable and courteous. There is something wonderfully charming in this face with a mixture of gravity. He is never seen to laugh, but has been observed to weep. He is very straight in stature, his hands large and spreading, his arms are very beautiful. "He talks little, but with a great quality and is the handsomest man in the world."

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