Freitag, 2. Oktober 2009

TIME: Two Arguments for What to Do in Afghanistan

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1927095-1,00.html

Give It Time
Peter Bergen

In August, President Obama laid out the rationale for stepping up the fight in Afghanistan: If left unchecked, the Taliban insurgency will mean an even larger safe haven from which al-Qaeda would plot to kill more Americans. So this is not only a war worth fighting. This is fundamental to the defense of our people. Obamas Af-Pak plan is, in essence, a countersanctuary strategy that denies safe havens to the Taliban and al-Qaeda, with the overriding goal of making America and its allies safer. Under Obama, the Pentagon has already sent a surge of 21,000 troops to Afghanistan, and the Administration is even weighing the possibility of deploying as many as 40,000 more. (See pictures of a photographer's personal journey through war.)

This is a sound policy. If U.S. forces were not in Afghanistan, the Taliban, with its al-Qaeda allies in tow, would seize control of the country's south and east and might even take it over entirely. A senior Afghan politician told me that the Taliban would be in Kabul within 24 hours without the presence of international forces. This is not because the Taliban is so strong; generous estimates suggest it numbers no more than 20,000 fighters. It is because the Afghan government and the 90,000-man Afghan army are still so weak.

The objections to an increased U.S. military commitment in South Asia rest on a number of flawed assumptions. The first is that Afghans always treat foreign forces as antibodies. In fact, poll after poll since the fall of the Taliban has found that a majority of Afghans have a favorable view of the international forces in their country. A BBC/ABC News poll conducted this year, for instance, showed that 63% of Afghans have a favorable view of the U.S. military. To those who say you cant trust polls taken in Afghanistan, its worth noting that the same type of poll consistently finds neighboring Pakistan to be one of the most anti-American countries in the world.

Another common criticism is that Afghanistan is a cobbled-together agglomeration of warring tribes and ethnic factions that is not amenable to anything approaching nation-building. In fact, the first Afghan state emerged with the Durrani Empire in 1747, making it a nation older than the U.S. Afghans lack no sense of nationhood; rather, they have always been ruled by a weak central state.

A third critique is that Afghanistan is simply too violent for anything constituting success to happen there. This is highly misleading. While violence is on the rise, it is nothing on the scale of what occurred during the Iraq war — or even what happened in U.S. cities as recently as 1991, when an American was statistically more likely to be killed than an Afghan civilian was last year. Finally, critics of greater U.S. involvement suggest that there is no realistic model for a successful end state in Afghanistan. In fact, there is a good one relatively close at hand: Afghanistan as it was in the 1970s, a country at peace internally and with its neighbors, whose towering mountains and exotic peoples drew tourists from around the world.

These flawed assumptions underlie the misguided argument that the war in Afghanistan is unwinnable. Some voices have begun to advocate a much smaller mission in Afghanistan, fewer troops and a decapitation strategy aimed at militant leaders carried out by special forces and drone attacks. Superficially, this sounds reasonable. But it has a back-to-the-future flavor because it is more or less the exact same policy that the Bush Administration followed in the first years of the occupation: a light footprint of several thousand U.S. soldiers who were confined to counterterrorism missions. That approach helped foster the resurgence of the Taliban, which continues to receive material support from elements in Pakistan. If a pared-down counterterrorism strategy works no better the second time around, will we have to invade Afghanistan all over again in the event of a spectacular Taliban comeback?

Having overthrown the ruling government in 2001, the U.S. has an obligation to leave to Afghans a country that is somewhat stable. And a stabilized Afghanistan is a necessary precondition for a peaceful South Asia, which is today the epicenter of global terrorism and the most likely setting of a nuclear war. Obamas Af-Pak plan has a real chance to achieve a stable Afghanistan if it is given some time to work.

Bergen, a frequent visitor to Afghanistan since 1993, is the author of Holy War, Inc. and The Osama bin Laden I Know.

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See pictures of Afghanistan's TV election.

Turn It Over
Leslie H. Gelb

Hawks on Afghan policy — those who favor defeating al-Qaeda through a full-blown counterinsurgency strategy involving up to 40,000 more U.S. troops — have divined a politically clever line of argument: Win or get out.

Its a phony choice. The hawks know there's no chance of our simply pulling out of Afghanistan. That option isn't even on the White House table, despite growing public desire to end the war. The true aim of the hawks, or all-outers, in this maneuver is to discredit the real policy alternative — the middle ground. Their ploy is to portray the middle way as simply a cover for getting out. (See pictures of Gitmo detainees.)

But there is a real and strong middle option: to put ourselves and friendly Afghans in a position to manage future terrorist threats in that country without a major U.S. combat role. We can accomplish this by doing what we actually know how to do: arm, train, divide the enemy, contain and deter.

There are four main prescriptions for a more realistic strategy in Afghanistan. First, stop trying to do the impossible, i.e., build an effective government in Kabul and enlarge Afghan security forces. Corruption, inefficiency and addiction are endemic to Afghan society. We should instead focus on forging a smaller army, say 75,000 or 100,000, that can and will actually fight, and concentrate on arming and training local warlords and tribal leaders who can defend themselves. This, backed by good U.S. logistics and intelligence, could block a Taliban reconquest of Afghanistan.

Second, divide and rent the Taliban. Like the British, we can propose deals that split the moderates (those content with exerting power in Afghanistan alone) from the fanatics (those obsessed with global jihad). We can also attract Taliban fighters by paying them more than the Taliban leadership can afford.

Third, surge about 10,000 new combat forces on top of the 68,000 already authorized and create an additional 5,000 dedicated trainers. Such a surge should be sufficient to handle immediate troubles.

Fourth, start doing what the U.S. does well — deterrence and containment. To deter, we must maintain a small, residual capability in Afghanistan for a few years, as well as offshore air and missile capabilities to inflict harsh punishment when necessary. To contain threats, Washington needs to form alliances with neighboring states like Pakistan, India, China, Russia and even Iran, which supported us in the early days of the war. All share an interest in combatting Sunni-based religious extremism as well as the drug trade.

These actions can be in place within one to two years and allow the U.S. to be mostly withdrawn from combat within three. This strategy rests on a time guideline, not a fixed timetable. It is in keeping with our overriding interests: first, to check terrorist threats worldwide and not place disproportionate bets in Afghanistan; and second, to extricate ourselves from unending major wars so that our leaders can focus sharply on reconstituting what makes the U.S. the leading world power — our economy.

But by far the strongest argument for this middle course is that the all-out alternative simply defies realities. The all-out strategy calls for an additional 40,000 or so troops, most of whom wont be deployed in the field in less than a year; they would thus do little to protect against the near-term dangers that General Stanley McChrystal has warned of. Perhaps most fundamental, the middle way avoids the quicksand on which the counterinsurgency strategy is built: the absolute need for nation-building. Counterinsurgency strategy requires clearing and holding territory, which cannot be done without transforming a corruption-riddled, anarchic and poverty-stricken state into a functioning market democracy. That goal is totally beyond American interests and capabilities and promises only endless war. Nor does the all-out approach help us in Pakistan, whose leaders continue to nurture long-standing alliances with the Taliban as a counterweight to India, Islamabad's real worry. Finally, the all-outers slight the U.S. voters who have run out of patience with the loss of American lives and treasure for a war whose aims they can no longer fathom.

The U.S. has never won a classic civil war or a fight against an insurgency in which it bore the brunt of battle and became the local villain. Vietnam is the obvious example. For the sake of friendly Afghans and for our own security, our goal now should be to make this their war, not our war.

Gelb is the author of Power Rules: How Common Sense Can Rescue American Foreign Policy and president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations.

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15 Kommentare:

  1. If the US still hasn't learned its lesson, and both these above articles proves it has not learned its lesson, it may need defeat to understand that you don't get far by occupying a country, installing utterly corrupt puppets who are despised by their own people, and bomb civilians at random, and expect to get anything out of it except a steady haemorrhage. It's exactly what happened in Vietnam and then too the lies were the same.

    The Taliban aren't Al Qaeda. The Taliban aren't keen on hosting Al Qaeda. And keeping Afghanistan going is just going to strengthen the Taliban and actively recruit for Al Qaeda, which now lives in Western cities and doesn't need to train in Kandahar.

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  2. I know it. You know it. "They" know it, too. But the people do not.
    So it seems.
    Or: who cares about the people?

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  3. The US is trying to find a "politically correct" way out of it. Neither the Afghan people nor the US+UK soldiers' lives matter.

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  4. I think this is an exaggeration. It's not as simple as that. Sure, I have no doubt, there are those who don't give a damn about the actual people and their lives. But others do. "The US" is not a monolithic entity, let's not forget. Nor is "the government" - it's a collection of agencies and a conglomeration of various groups and individuals. It is reductionist to claim they all think and act the same way.

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  5. But at the same time, what do you suggest? Abruptly leaving Afghanistan is not a viable option, in my opinion. I thought the above articles actually provide at least somewhat more nuanced and more sophisticated view than the simplistic everyday debate one hears everywhere.

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  6. The only viable option is to get the hell out and leave the poor country alone. Left without outside interference, the Afghans will eventually find a way to live with each other. They lived with each other for at least the last two thousand years.

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  7. Perhaps you are right, I don't know. I would have to learn more about Afghanistan's history and society to adequately respond and say whether I truly agree or not. Based on what I know, I err on the side of caution. The thing is - the Cold War and now this war have wreaked havoc in that country. It may not be as easy as simply get the hell out of there and expect everything to fix itself.

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  8. :)

    Language is a very imprecise means of communication...

    Of course, for example, you, me, doc bilin, etc are VERY concerned about the lives of the Afghan people's and the "Coalition" soldiers' well being. Otherwise, I would not be having this dialog here with you, would I?

    A reference to "the US" in this context is to be understood as:
    ...a corporate (embodiment), of an individual, a clique, or, of and organization, who, currently, individually or collectively have the executive power on the matter.

    Frankly, even though I am an American myself, I do NOT count myself in that US I was referring to.

    I do not have the slightest say in the matter.

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  9. No, I understand what you meant to imply. My point was that even such use of "the US" is too generalizing. My point was that there are people in the government who do have some say and who care about the lives of the people and the soldiers, and for whom such considerations are a priority. They are, unfortunately, most likely in the minority, though.

    In addition, decision-making process is not an easy one. It is much easier to talk about this from the sidelines - when you have the power to make such decisions, suddenly things start to look a lot more undetermined, because it becomes your responsibility. Sometimes, given the information available - and, let's make no mistake, the government people do have a lot more information - making a call is extremely difficult. Of course, it all depends on how good the information is, on what hidden agendas play a role in the decision, etc.

    Ultimately, I don't disagree with you, but am just qualifying your comments. Often, to understand others, the best way is to try to imagine their position. That's one of the reasons it is always very interesting (well, to me, at least :) to read some accounts, usually published much later on, about how certain decisions were made - then it is possible to gain some insight into how things worked. It is possible to learn from history, but most simply ignore that possibility. Too bad.

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  10. And let me also say that I'm talking form experience - I am a member of several organizations (student, Ukrainian scouts, etc.), and have had some experience with governance within those organizations. One of the things I've learned is that you may be the nicest person, have the best possible intentions, but you will be disliked or even hated because of the position of power you occupy. You do one thing - some will dislike you. Do another - others will. And do nothing - most will :)). In relation to this, I like a quote by Goethe: "The silliest desire is the desire to be liked by everyone." He also said "a clever man makes no minor blunders."

    The higher up you go in the level of governance, the more complicated and delicate the situation becomes. But the principles and the lessons remain. In the end, sticking to Goethe, "to rule is easy, to govern difficult."

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  11. Bohdan,
    I am far from denying your "exceptions".
    Without knowing all those details (which I cannot possibly know, as you mention), I can only comment about the article you have posted from what I infer and "suspect".

    From what I infer so far, contrary to the article's claim, the Afghan war is FAR from being won.

    Yet, the article boldly claims the opposite... which makes me ask a more fundamental question: what do THEY mean by "winning"? Perhaps, THEIR concept of "winning" is different than mine.

    Beyond, it is an article for public consumption. Hence, the source cannot have access to all the "classified information" either.

    Essentially, unless I consider the author of the article to more-or-less be at my level of awareness, neither reading it nor commenting about it has any value.

    My inferred view is the the US is trying to get out of there quietly, unlike the way they had to desert Vietnam.

    The US has already left Iraq, by handing it over to a Shiite clique who openly sympathize with Iran. Not just that, but to a "theocratic" rule, which is against all and any advertised principles of the US.

    It is in my opinion such a big defeat for the US, that it is written on the flag of Iraq itself:
    -- "Allah-u Akbar"

    What do YOU think a *win* in Afghanistan should mean?

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  12. Well, I wasn't necessarily limiting myself by the opinions above - I was commenting on a wider situation. Of course, any opinion and article has its biases and limitations - that's a given. I'm not saying I agree with everything that is stated. I thought some things were useful as starting points to think about what is happening. After all, not everyone may be at the same level of awareness as yourself regarding Afghanistan.

    And a quick question: what is wrong with having "Allah-u Akbar" on the flag? America has "In God We Trust" on its money. They are Muslim, after all.

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  13. Oh, and I don't think any war is "won" in reality - everybody loses something: lives, peace, stability, the list goes on. That is especially true with the wars waged today. Unless we mean some small groups of those who are able to make money or gain power due to the war, "win" is just a PR word.

    So, this war need not be "won," it has to be ended in the best possible way - first of all, for the people of Afghanistan. Practically speaking, that would leave behind a more-or-less stable situation, where Afghani society can go on with its life in freedom. It's a loaded statement, of course - one of the things I mean is that Afghanis should be free to self-determine. Clearly, opressive regimes like Taliban do not qualify.

    In the end, I do not have all the answers. I'm not a specialist on the area and cannot give any nuanced suggestions as to what would be the best way to handle the situation. That has to come based on the circumstances on the ground and the considerations that take into account culture, social norms, psychosocial attitude of Afghanis, etc. Trying to impose anything will not do.

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  14. 8 US troops killed in fierce Afghan fighting
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091004/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan

    It was the heaviest U.S. loss of life in a single battle since July 2008, when nine American soldiers were killed in a raid on an outpost in Wanat in the same province.

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  15. Yes. I was just going to post that very same thing, too...

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