http://cosmicrat.multiply.com/journal/item/127/The_ACLU_is_the_reason_we_have_Constitutional_rights_in_America.
Many of us live in relatively free democratic countries, yet many may not realize how that freedom came about. Many Americans don't know the full story of ours. I'd be interested in hearing from others how their own country got the liberty they currently enjoy.
--cosmicrat
The Constitution is the reason we have rights. The ACLU is more concerned with finding things they think the founders left out, and trying through legal gymnastics to make them fit with the constitution. That is how we get things like Roe V Wade using the part of the constitution about the right to life not being abridged without due process, as an excuse to find a right of mothers to kill their babies.
AntwortenLöschenCertainly one of many - that's why I'm a member....
AntwortenLöschenYou sound like a real constitutional law expert!
AntwortenLöschenIncidentally, the ACLU had nothing to do with Roe v. Wade and the majority of the cases they undertake to represent on involve Free Speech or 4th Amendment protections. They've also never stated that they are pursuing rights that were "left out" of the constitution - although the 9th amendment DOES state that the Bill of Rights is not to be interpreted as being a complete list, so there'd be no reason for them to ever have to resort to mentioning stuff "left out."
In addition, the decision in Roe v. Wade was not at all based on life, liberty, property deprivation/due process rights...
Other than that, though, your comment was right on. By which I mean, the entire first sentence seems essentially correct, and the words "them" and "gets" were spelled correctly... ;-)
great post thanks captain
AntwortenLöschen'In addition, the decision in Roe v. Wade was not at all based on life, liberty, property deprivation/due process rights...'
AntwortenLöschenthis based on my right as a women to do with my body as I feel fit period-so it was based my life and my liberty and my persuit of happiness-
Your body isn't the one dead in a bucket.
AntwortenLöschenthat was uncalled for-it is still my body and you nor anyone else has a right to to tell me what to do with it period-
AntwortenLöschenThe mother isn't the person killed by an abortionist. An entirely different human being is killed.
AntwortenLöschenThe ACLU sometimes annoys me, but I'm glad that they exist.
AntwortenLöschenYeah. I'm with them on speech and privacy generally. They grab onto unpopular causes, which is important.
AntwortenLöschenBut when it comes to some of their "wall of separation" cases, they are counter-productive in the symbolism of some of the cases they pick, PR-wise.
That's called women's rights to control their own bodies, and the privacy to do so. That, obviously, is far from the only civil right that had to be fought for in court. The right to free speech was one of them. The bill of rights, and the 14th amendment which applied them to the states as well, still had to be won in court. If you had read my blog, not just the title, you would know that.
AntwortenLöschenThe ACLU uses the constitution in court to support the rights of those with minority viewpoints. As I said earlier sometimes this annoys me, but we need groups like that to ensure that we don't end up having a tyranny of the majority, far too many people are willing to run with "majority rules" rather than the Federal Republic that we are. One of things that annoys me to death are the people (from the left and the right) who will one day say "the voters should have their choice, we are the majority" and then turn around when it suits them and wrap themselves in the Constitution that clearly spells why we are a nation of rules rather than a mob.
AntwortenLöschengreat answere blackwatch and that is preciesly why we need the ACLU
AntwortenLöschenThe main point I wanted to make is that, though the Bill of Rights is indispensable, those rights could be and were largely ignored by the government until court decisions enforced them and set precedents. And until the 14th Amendment, they did not apply to state laws, and that, too had to be taken to the Supreme Court. The ACLU has done more than any other organization in our history to actually secure liberty for Americans. My blog is only a short summary of that story.
AntwortenLöschenyes and thanks for the great post
AntwortenLöschenI've always thought it was funny.
AntwortenLöschenConservative men, telling women what to do with their bodies - all based on a book which is nearly 3,000 years old (and which also called for killing people who cut and carried firewood on Sunday; taught that slavery was a good idea, and which main proponents both at the time and up through the Renaissance thought the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around it).
Not a great recommendation.
Thanks astra
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